Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To Rich Hutnik wrote on Sun, Oct 5, 2008 10:43 PM UTC:Ok, here are daily comments on what has been written so far from my last posting: 1. How effective of a recruiting tool into the world of chess variants are home made sets? If someone who plays a game, and likes it somewhat, what are the odds they will end up continue to play and promote it, if they had to go and make their own set? Sure, from a totally dead end activity where you are the only person who they may play, it is ok, but for promoting the growth of chess variants, how well does it work? Let's say someone has you try a cardgame, and you like it, and then they tell you you need to make your own cards to play it. Will you do that? 2. Is anyone else here not confused by those SuperChess pieces? I look a them, and I have difficulty remembering which set of pieces is which. I commend the effort, but the pieces leave me confused. 3. Hmm... GREAT, there is another factor that wasn't even on my mind until now. How and the heck is the chess variant community going to happen to be able to do notation for games in a way that everyone can understand? I believe algerbraic notation is helpful for recording moves, but board positions? What do we do then? I know this will be important down the road for IAGO, if it is going to be covering a range of chess variants as part of the IAGO World Tour. 4. Ok, the name of the pieces (what they are as initials, also has me confused here). I have to see yet another set of names for games that Capablanca used and tried to popularize? Again, my reference at standards points a bit at this. If you go by a hard and fast rule that everyone creates their own games in isolation from one another, you end up with 40+ different names for he same piece. And actually the same name used with 5+ different pieces. Yes, you get cool artistic expression, but how is it on the community? When I was doing IAGO chess, should of stuck with 'Templar' for the Knight+Bishop piece, and 'Champion' for the Knight+Rook piece, because my artistic expression demands I do it? How helpful is it to the community. I am not forbidding anyone from doing this, but asking how reasonable is it to have this as a hardcore rule? 5. On the issue of pawn promotion, unless the chess variant community is going to abandon completely having physical pieces (not sure how one gets growth without then though), exactly how does one handle pawn promotion in games where you can have a piece promote to multiple versions of Queen power pieces. Like take a Capablanca Chess game, and you want to get a second Chancellor or Archbishop into play. How is this handled? Are we going to permanently adapt a flipped chess rook as a 'Joker' piece that a pawn can promote to, and the Joker can represent anything? Are we going to codify flipped rooks as a new piece, or demand people making chess variants provide enough physical equipment to handle every case of pawn promotion, or do we give up on the idea of having physical equipment completely? We set up a nice place for all traces of chess variants to disappear if the Internet and all computers ever blew up with do that, by the way. 6. If you want things to remain exactly as they are, with each game being seen as unique creations and islands to themselves, then you don't need to consider standardization. You don't even need to consider any game a 'chess variant'. It is just a game. So, the CV site could also then break out checkers and Go to, and play those (there are presets on here), because heck, everyone just plays games. There is no such thing as 'Chess Variants', just games. I will say this is unworkable from an IAGO perspective though, which also needs to categorize abstract strategy games. 7. One project I am looking at is a protocol system so websites that play games can communicate their games with IAGO. Having it handle a wide range of abstract strategy games, would be of big help here. I would lead he way for people to get rated across a categories of games or abstract strategy games in general. The SuperDuperGames site does this. Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID NextChess does not match any item.