Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To H. G. Muller wrote on Sun, Oct 5, 2008 08:36 PM UTC:Indeed, unifying Chess960 and Chess this way is a nice concept. But it only works because these games nearly are the same variant. You acknowledge yourself that you already run into problems with Janus vs CRC, which,seen from the viewpoint of a Xiangqi or Shogi player are practically the same game. But the promotion rules are slightly different, as are the castling rules. The promotion rules could be attributed as a property of the Pawn, and in this view a CRC Pawn and a Janus Pawn are different pieces. This becomes more obtuse in Chaturanga, where the promotion is determined by the board square you promote on, and thus can no longer be considered a property of the Pawn. And how about Losers Chess vs normal Chess? How could you recognize that a FEN represents a poition from Loser Chess rather than normal Chess. How would you see it from the PGN if the variant tag was merely a comment? The game might end with a resign, so the absence of checkmate might not be apparent. Your unified approach simply does not work when the variants differ more than a trifle, or becomes exceedingly cumbersome. WinBoard aims at supporting a wide variety of variants. A really universal FEN standard should be able to handle variants the designer of the standard did not even know. This is why X-FEN is unacceptable for use in WinBoard, both in communication with the user and with the engine. It does a lousy job representing Xiangqi and Shogi positons.... Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID NextChess does not match any item.