Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To Gary Gifford wrote on Sun, Feb 26, 2006 01:23 PM UTC:Sam Trenholme wrote, in part: ' . . . modern chess matches are under shorter time controls than older chess games, making it so that one is better off having a great deal of memorized opening lines so as to use less time in the first moves of a chess game. Or it could be that one gets a better position playing a mainstream line.' -ST GKG Reply: This opening memorization is a sword that cuts both ways in over-the-board play. When you play a main line, your opponent responds main line. Book Knowledge 1 vs. Book Knowledge 2. I once played against a young kid's Queen's Gambit. After 10 moves I thought, my gosh, this kid is great. Every move perfect 'book.' But then we left the book and the kid couldn't play the position at all. I wiped him out, and knew if I had played an off-beat opening I'd have had him from move 1 or 2. With e-mail games uncommon openings lose much of their luster because the opponent can research them and study the off-beat positions in great depth (not like over-the-board). Sam wrote: 'The problem with the Dunst Opening [1.Nc3] is 1... d5 followed by 2... d4, forcing white to move a piece twice. GKG Response: And yet this is the line I love in the Dunst. And I will move that knight yet a third time. Great. I get 2 knights in front of my castled king. We get a great opening imbalance. You say white moved his knight twice... I say it doesn't matter in the Dunst. Dunst players want this. Sam wrote: The problem with 1. Nc3 d5 2. d4 is that White now can not do the Queen's gambit. GKG: But White does not want to do a Qeeen's Gambit. So we could, using the same reasoning say, 'The problem with 1. e4 is that White can't do a Queen's Gambit. It is a moot point. Sam wrote: These disadvantages may be offset by getting black out of his book, and playing a line where one knows the traps far better than the other player. GKG response: I see no disadvantages in playing the Dunst as white. But agree with the out of the book part. Sam wrote: Ralph Betza once pointed out that if you want FIDE (modern western) chess to feel like a chess variant, play the Boden-Kieseritzky gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Nxe4 5.O-O). GKG: But there is strong chance this won't work. Here is why. After 1. e4 you need black to play e5. But in tournaments and matches we often see 1. ... c5 (Sicilian). And, if we don't see that we can see French Defense, Pirc/Modern, Caro Kahn, Scandinavian Defense, Owen's Defense, etc. But with a Dunst, you get your 1. Nc3 in and could care less what black does. You, as white, are where you want to be instantly... of course, there is a long battle ahead. Sam wrote: The way I see it, anything that is reasonable in the first ten moves of chess has already been analyzed and studied by someone. FIDE Chess is a very well-trodden area, where interesting novelties are hard to find. GKG response. Agreed. However, most humans do not walk around with all this knowledge. So, in over the board play you can take many by surprise. One man's Dunst is another man's novelty, so to speak. Or 1. g4 (Grob) has likely never been seen by many tournament players just starting out. Sam wrote: However, there are literally an infinite number of chess variants (Chess is probably more malleable than any other abstract game) and very few of the variants have been explored at all. As just one tiny example, the variant that I just published (shameless plug) shares many pattens with FIDE chess openings, but is a almost completely uncharted territory for people looking for new ground to explore. GKG response: Agreed. Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID Chess Openings does not match any item.