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Hidden Random Chess. This is a two-player game that incorporates the element of chance in chess.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

💡📝Prussia General wrote on Sat, Jul 13, 2019 05:00 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★

Just played this very interesting game. A single Knight won the game when White was at a larrge disadvantage being down a bishop and a rook.

(note b2=P means b2 is flipped and a Pawn is revealed. Pawns are desginated P and there is no short-form notation)

1. c2=P c7=C
2. Pe2-e3 ....

Otherwise Cc7xc1 #

2. ... Cc7xc1 (xB)
3. Ke1-e2 Cc1xa1 (xP)
4. g2=N b7=B
5. Ng2-f4 Bb7xh1 (xR)
6. Nf4-e6

After a careless capture at h1, which yielded a rook advantage (rook is the strongest unit on board at the start), Black resigns at this point, since Nxg7 or Nc7 are both checkmates and no possible move could defend both squares. The King could not move as its only revealed piece, the e7 pawn, is blocked by the white Knight. Other unrevealed p

Greg Strong wrote on Sat, Jul 13, 2019 04:29 PM UTC:

There is nothing on this page. Are you referring to this game?

https://www.chessvariants.com/38.dir/flip.html

Ben Reiniger wrote on Sat, Jul 13, 2019 05:20 PM UTC:

The contents are here, just hidden pending editorial review. But Greg's point does stand that this should have a different name to differentiate it from the existing Flip Chess. Maybe something that indicates the hidden information aspect?

Greg Strong wrote on Sat, Jul 13, 2019 07:32 PM UTC:

Ah, I see, the page contents don't show up if I'm not logged in ...

💡📝Prussia General wrote on Tue, Jul 16, 2019 05:05 AM UTC:

Is the name disc chess taken yet? Also how do I revise the name? It doesn't seem to let me.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Thu, Jul 18, 2019 05:14 PM UTC:

The setup section says "See illustration," but there is no illustration. One would be helpful to have. Also, the setup says nothing about the board. I'm presuming it's the usual 8x8 Chess board, but it would be helpful to mention this explicitly.

The name Disc Chess brings to mind Terry Pratchett's Discworld and suggests to me a game played on a circular board. Also, it's not the only game with disc shaped pieces. Chinese Chess is also played with disc-shaped pieces. I agree with Ben that a name reflecting the hidden information aspect of this game would be most appropriate. Something like Undercover Chess might work.

💡📝Prussia General wrote on Fri, Jul 19, 2019 02:18 AM UTC:

Thanks for the input - now I just need some solutions.

1) How do I go by edit the name of the mod?

2) How do I upload my own images? All options so far require an external link. The diagram designer doesn't show that the e2 pawn is different from other units on the 2nd row. I have my own image ready but no way to upload it onto the website.

Ben Reiniger wrote on Fri, Jul 19, 2019 03:39 AM UTC:

@Prussia,

1) We (an editor) will need to change the name; let us know when you're settled on one. (Also, to me, Undercover seems like the player should know their own pieces' identities. "Reveal" or something, but that suffers the same problem and hints at existing Revelation. Hmm.)

2) You should be able to upload images from your computer using the "upload files" link just after the bottom of the game description -- the part that begins with the 'm' icon and "This 'user submitted' page ...". The editing links for you (including the image upload) will only display when you are logged in. If you want to use the diagram designer, there should be some suitable modified-pawn images that would work, or maybe using the dotted modifier recently described there. (A black dot over pieces that are technically unknown to the players, but which you want to show the reader?)

I also wanted to mention that this reminds me a little of V.R. Parton's Identific Chess (here currently only as a Friedlander applet; I'll have to write an article later), which led me also to David Howe's Potential Chess.

💡📝Prussia General wrote on Fri, Jul 19, 2019 09:32 PM UTC:

Name: What about "Hidden Random Chess", a name inspired from Fischer Random Chess.

Uploading image: Thanks to Ben's hints, I now have the image uploaded.

Greg Strong wrote on Fri, Jul 19, 2019 10:47 PM UTC:

I like this. I think it's a good name and I can find no evidence of it being used before. I'll change the name later this evening.