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Equalized Shatranj. Basic weak moves of ancient pieces are compensated by their numbers. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Lev Grigoriev wrote on Mon, Mar 4 08:35 PM UTC:

This page is probably ready)


💡📝Lev Grigoriev wrote on Fri, Mar 8 03:38 PM UTC:

Please watch it, it’s ready!


Florin Lupusoru wrote on Fri, Mar 8 04:56 PM UTC:

Suddenly created idea similar but different to Makrochess. This game has an idea of equalizing the powers of pieces by increasing the number of weak ones and preserve it of stronger ones.

This introduction sounds a bit funny. I'm guessing, you don't speak English very well. 

Let's rephase it.

"This game is the result of equalizing the power of weaker pieces by increasing their number". 


💡📝Lev Grigoriev wrote on Fri, Mar 8 05:17 PM UTC in reply to Florin Lupusoru from 04:56 PM:

Thx, done it.


A. M. DeWitt wrote on Sat, Mar 16 01:22 AM UTC:

What happened to the Knights and Rooks (more accurately their Shatranj equivalents)? Those were in the original, not the Dabbabah or Wazir.

Regardless, the page is good enough to be approved.


H. G. Muller wrote on Sat, Mar 16 06:47 AM UTC in reply to A. M. DeWitt from 01:22 AM:

The Alfils are placed such that two of the same color are bound to the same 8 squares. With as a consequence that half the squares cannot be reached by any Alfil of this color. And what is worse, these are the squares where all Alfils of the opponent are bound to. Two Alfils can never capture each other!

That seems pretty bad to me, and could make the game very drawish. By withdrawing the King to a square where no opponent Alfils can get the defender has an advantage of two Alfils, and the attacker only has 1 Dabbaba, 1 Ferz and 1 Wazir that could attack it (which the Defender also has). Trade an Alfil for the attacking Wazir, and then move to a square of another 'meta color' where you have two Alfils, and the attacker doesn't even have the Wazir anymore.

It would be better to swap the Dabbabas with the Alfils in the c- and f-files. Then each square can be reached by a single Alfil of either color.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Sat, Mar 16 06:55 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 06:47 AM:

True. But this is really the problem with Alfils. This is the case also in the original shatranj. I agree that a different setup could improve the game play. At the end, it might be an interesting game to look at the interactions between the elementary "atoms".


H. G. Muller wrote on Sat, Mar 16 07:24 AM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from 06:55 AM:

This is the case also in the original shatranj.

Indeed. But in original Shatranj you don't have both your Alfils on the same color, and not so many pieces are Alfils.


💡📝Lev Grigoriev wrote on Sun, Mar 17 11:45 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from Sat Mar 16 06:47 AM:

Thanks for approving!

It would be better to swap the Dabbabas with the Alfils in the c- and f-files. Then each square can be reached by a single Alfil of either color.

ARGH!!! miscalculated earlier, made now…)))


David Paulowich wrote on Wed, Mar 20 06:47 PM UTC:

I have been thinking about "Shatranj Style" variants where Pawns promote to Rooks (and only Rooks). Perhaps this would increase the number of decisive endgames. Promotion to a "brand new piece" in this game is acceptable to me, considering I already have appropriate chess pieces lying around my house. Rather than bore you with a thousand words, I will finish this comment with a picture:

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Equalized Shatranj with Knights

In short, I removed eight pieces to the left of the White King and added a pair of Knights. Love those Knights, hate Wazirs. This "crooked pawn structure" was featured in several of my games on this site. Also, my [Mar 1, 2007] Comment on Makrochess has some relevance here.


💡📝Lev Grigoriev wrote on Wed, Mar 20 07:12 PM UTC in reply to David Paulowich from 06:47 PM:Good ★★★★

Круто, прикольно. Что-то в этом есть и от тайских шахмат. Мне нравится такое распределение фигур по цветовым комплексам.

Cool and cute. There’s even a breeze of Thai chess here. I like this management and distribution of pieces on color complexes.


🔔Notification on Sun, Mar 24 10:05 AM UTC:

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