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I hate the plain uncheckered Shogi board and do not wish to use it at all. I will be happy with either the checkered Shogi board or one of the marble Shogi boards. I would prefer to use the maple/walnut CSS board for Chess.
Registration is over now. We have eleven participants.
Okay, I prefer the uncheckered marble board for my game against you. If Sean Humby has no preferences, I'll also use it for your game against him. I will use the maple/walnut CSS for your Chess games against Jeremy Good and Gary Gifford if they do not object.
Most important for me when I play chess here is that I want to be able to use Alfairie (sp?) type pieces, not Abstract. The board you mention should be okay. When it comes to Shogi I can use Japanese pieces or the modern (silver moon type - as I did get quite use to those, much to my surprise as I use Japanese characters when I play over the board and on-line in real time)... but I do not want the dark blue marble board... the other 3 CV boards I saw look fine to me. When Xianqi comes around, I will need to revisit the CV board and piece options. I think I used light and dark wood Chinese character pieces last time.
I'm all set! This is great! I haven't been in a tourney for some time... GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!
Just a quick note to let you know why I am not making any moves right now. I'm currently away from home doing sciency stuff at a Synchrotron. I'm also having to brush up on my understanding of Shogi and Xianqi, whenever I can. The main problem I think I will have is recognizing the pieces from the Japanese/Chinese symbols. Can someone tell me if there are piece sets I can use, which look more like Western Chess pieces? I hope my time does not run out for any of the games. I'll be back home on wednesday. I hope I will give my Shogi/Xianqi opponents a decent challenge.
lol, well at least you picked a good name :) when viewing your game, if you click on 'piece set' you can change to 'alfaerie' and that shows western style pieces. you don't have to open your email to play, go to game logs here http://play.chessvariants.org/pbmlogs/index.php type your userid and password, and you will see your games, just click on your name and away you go. good luck :) give 'em trouble he he :)
There are alternate sets available for all the games in this tournament. You can change your set when you move. Look for the Set field in the move form. The new set will show up when you verify your move. Besides the Chinese Chinese Chess sets, you may choose a western set, an abstract marble set, or a Storm the Ivory Tower set. Besides the Japanese Shogi sets, you may choose a symbolic set, a set based on the Chess Motif font, and an Alfaerie set that isn't even wedge shaped.
Greetings, Question: You have a list of who's playing who, but is there a list with links to the games themselves, to make it easier for observers?
I am really enjoying the tournament; the mental flexibility that it requires is energizing. I work with young kids who love chess, and I have shown them the positions in my games. Some had not before heard of XiangQi or Shogi, and those who had were really excited to talk about their parents (some of whom grew up playing one of the Eastern standards) and the parents were pleased to hear they were also learning about these games as well--it was validating to hear praises of the game sung by someone else. Thanks for offering the tourney. I hope after this one, we have another.
All the first round games have finished. When can we expect the next round?
This Tournament is less important than the yearly Game Courier Tournament, and it is CXS#1 which has to adapt its schedule to GCT#3. Since the poll for GCT#3 hasn't started yet, I propose to start to assign the games next week, since there are players who may be willing to play in both tournaments and would prefer to avoid too much overlap. However, the players who prefer to play their second-round games this summer or this fall may ask for a delay. So, please state whether you prefer to play your second-round games now or later (in which case it may be even later, if your opponent so wishes). I also intend to use looser time limits (28 days and 20 hours). The third round will probably have to be played at the start of next year.
Since I am presently unable to access the control panel, I'll write the results hereafter. The last game of Chess between Nicola Caridi and Thomas McElmurry ended in a draw. FD 4 points, SB=10, qualified at Xiangqi JG 1 point, SB=0 TT 3 points, SB=5, qualified at Chess SH 4 points, SB=8, qualified at Xiangqi PP 0 point, SB=0 NC 4.5 points, SB=10.75, qualified at Chess and Shogi TM 2.5 points, SB=3.75 NF 1.5 points, SB=1.25 AF 5 points, SB=15.5, qualified at Chess and Xiangqi DP 2.5 points, SB=4.25, qualified at Shogi GG 5 points, SB=12, qualified at Chess and Shogi The overall ranking is AF GG NC FD SH TT DP TM NF JG PP. Hence the second-round games will be: Chess AF vs. GG, AF vs. NC, AF vs. TT, GG vs. NC, GG vs. TT, NC vs. TT Xiangqi AF vs. FD, AF vs. SH, FD vs. SH Shogi, GG vs. NC, GG vs. DP, NC vs. DP, with the player named first moving first. To qualify for the second-round play-offs, a player will have to tie for first or to be just half a point behind (excepted for Nicola Caridi who qualified at Chess with a win and a draw). So, if a player wins all his games in a variant, he will be declared Champion for that variant. I am also directly qualified for the third round with the Chess Champion, the Xiangqi Champion and the Shogi Champion, with Gary Gifford, Nicola Caridi and Fergus Duniho as possible substitutes in case of overlap.
Aw! I have noticed that ties are decided by Buchholz-Sokoloff before Sonneborg-Berger just after having sent emails to the seven remaining players telling them that the games should be assigned Saturday. Mercifully it doesn't seem to change the ranking.
Because of the server shutdown, one of the players has lost seven days in each game. I don't know exactly how to add more time to that player only, but at the very least it shouldn't be too difficult to add manually a week's time to both players, which I intend to do for the games whose player who has been deprived of time prefers it. Sorry for the inconvenience.
I already programmed Game Courier this morning to discount a week of lost time in any game interrupted by the downtime this past week. But I did forget that I also needed to make the same change to the Logs page, since it is programmed to end games that have run out of time. I have now done this. If, in the meantime, it prematurely ended any game, that can be fixed by manually editing the log. Otherwise, everything should be fine now. If there are any bugs, it will be up to me to fix it.
I have been looking some of the games played, and some of them are very interesting. Nice Tournament. Congrats for all the players, I suppose you have had fun with it, gentlemen. Aaah... Special congrats for Antoine, I`m not talking about Chess, it is Soccer. What a game France-Brazil!. Zidane?: of other world!, what a classy player!, one of the best of all times!. Sorry, brazilians,you have played fatally, nobody could be sure you were playing there... all your millionary superstars have played below everybody expected. Are going to be les bleus in the final?. Perhaps, against Azzurri team, am I wrong?. Who is going to use the blue shirt in that case?.
I really enjoyed the 'chess trifecta', and I hope we can hold a tourney like that again next quarter. Thanks to all the players -- and there were some great games here!
I would suggest to hold a second Chess-Xiangqi-Shogi Tournament at the beginning of next year, but not before the bulk of GCT#3 is over. However, it might be worth discussing the Chess-Xiangqi-Shogi formula right now. Should it still be a three-phase Tournament or should it be completely revamped? In my opinion, a two-phase Tournament would be simpler, with nine games in the first phase (each player moving first twice at Chess and once at Xiangqi or vice versa, since moving first as Shogi doesn't matter a lot), and the players with two wins and a draw, or either two wins or a win and two draws and enough points, advancing to the individual tournaments, with the higher-ranked player always moving first, or enjoying a bye in some situations. (This way, a single loss in the first phase wouldn't completely bar a player from entering the Tournament for that variant.) Of course, a one-phase Tournament would be even simpler, but then there would be no Chess Champion, Xiangqi Champion or Shogi Champion, which might turn off competitors who are mostly interested into one game, but would be willing to enter a CXS Tournament because they might do well at their favourite game in the second phase. The formula should mostly depend of how many games the future participants are willing to play.
I think a two phase event such as described below, might work well: Phase A: Consists of Chess Event, Xianqi Event, and Shogi Event. A player could play in any one, any 2, or all 3.* Each game event gets a single winner who holds that title. Phase B: is a three player round Robin from the winners of Phase A. Note 1: If Player #x won all 3 events in phase A, phase B is not played. Note 2: If Player #x won 2 of the 3 events in Phase A, then he or she is the overall champ and Phase B is not played. Note 3: If players x, y, and z are independent champs, then Phase B is played for the overall title. *Playing in one event gives you a chance to win that game title, but is risky due to note 2; because another player might have won 2 events; thereby not giving you a chance of the overal title.
I would prefer more than three players for the Chess-Xiangqi-Shogi phase. How about a Shogi event starting in January, then a Chess event starting in March, then a Xiangqi event starting in May (because Shogi tends to take more time than Chess, which tends to take more time than Xiangqi)?. Each event would have the players moving twice as White and twice as Black. If say three players tie for first, the BS/SB method ranks them for tie-breaks, with player 2 moving first against player 3, and the winner moving second against player 1, so that there are seldom more than six games for an individual event (and only four if you don't tie for first). Then you give 1 point to the winner, 0.5 point to the runner up, 0.333 to the third ranked player, and so on... in each game, and you qualify the seven better players for the second round (thus, the winners for a single event always get qualified). These seven players move each once as White and once as Black at each game, with a higher BS/SB ranking in a tie-break situation giving the higher-ranked player the right either to move first (and the lower-ranked player choosing at which game) or to choose between Chess, Xiangqi or Shogi (and the lower-ranked player moving first).
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