Comments by CarlosCetina
Not entirely because on each turn the names of the players change alternately between White and Black.
Great! We can now easily review again the large number of games of the GC database.
Again all the logs can not be reviewed since the position skips directly from the starting setup to the last move made.
OK. It's now working correctly. There is another problem that happens only with randomized variants when one wants to print any entire game; only the final position is showed; it's impossible to review the game because one does not know what was the starting setup. Would there be any way to include both diagrams at once?
The point is that in random variants is important to know the starting setup if you want to review a game OTB reading the moves directly from a paper sheet; in variants whose starting setup is always the same it is not so important that this position be recorded.
Ideally it would be nice that when you click PRINT both positions be recorded: the starting and the current. It's understood that normally you will print finished games.
By the way, there is a lot of Fischer Random Chess logs broken with messages such as "ILLEGAL: N c1-b3 on turn 3: There was no N on c1. The piece on c1 is a K. Go back and try again." [j_carrillo_vii-fergus-2004-138-495]
OK, with that is sufficient. Regarding the broken Fischer Random Chess logs, they are 78; only 19 are OK. If they can not be recovered, maybe they should be deleted. Hard decision.
Sounds good the idea; if it works, perhaps I could use it for recovering the broken logs of my random variants which are in total 26. By the way, I have in mind to invite Garry Kasparov to join this community of CVs fans for playing a game with me of either Symmetric Chess or Cetran Chess 2; then it would be useful, convenient, the presets of these variants to have enforced theirs rules. Could you, please, help me to do it? The key things that I don't know is how to code the Bishops Conversion Rule and the Sissa movement rule. I am very excited since if he accepts, it would be a historic event: the first former World Champion Chess that would play here at The Hall of the Chess Variants!
Thanks Joseph, I have just done the correction.
TOURNAMENT
Cameron Miles Gary Gifford Jeremy Good Joe Joyce Sagi Gabay Carlos Cetina | double round robin 150 days spare time every games starting from a same asymmetric setup | 1stcetran2tourney |
SETUP
GAMES
Cameron Miles | Jeremy Good | Carlos Cetina | Gary Gifford | Joe Joyce | Sagi Gabay | Score | ||
1 | Cameron Miles | |||||||
2 | Jeremy Good | |||||||
3 | Carlos Cetina | |||||||
4 | Gary Gifford | |||||||
5 | Joe Joyce | |||||||
6 | Sagi Gabay |
We can get a first approach to the relative strength of these nightriders by placing them on the central square (g7) of a 13x13 board and counting the number of squares affected/checked from there.
Doing it, we would find these results:
NN11 | Diagonal Wide Crooked Nightrider | 56 |
NN02 | Straight Wide Crooked Nightrider | 36 |
NN31 | Quintessence | 36 |
NN00 | Rose | 32 |
NN33 | Diagonal Narrow Crooked Nightrider | 24 |
NN21 | Standard Nightrider | 24 |
NN04 | Straight Narrow Crooked Nightrider | 20 |
Hence, the following equivalences should be near to be true:
NN11 = NN00 + NN33 = NN00 + NN21 = NN31 + NN04 = NN02 + NN04
Yes, of course, post the prototypes here, Jeremy. Not only the description about cannon pawns talks about edge squares but all Rococo's ones. In the rules section I wrote: "Rococo's pieces [chameleon, long leaper, swapper, withdrawer, advancer, immobilizer and cannon pawns] are subject of the pertinent adecuation to an 8x8 board, that is, it will be supposed that the game is played on a 6x6 board and, in consequence, the board's edge would be formed by "a" and "h" columns, and 1st and 8th rows." I have always seen the disjunctive whether to apply Rococo's "edge conditions" or not here in this variant as a minor issue that players could resolve by mutual agreement before a game. In contrast, find two people interested in playing Universal Chess is certainly a huge, giant, colossal problem! I appreciate very much your contribution of designing piece icons. To keep adding more pieces to this variant, the main task to be done is standardize the various piece sets into one: the Alfaerie-many.
The Jeremy's last question, "In the current position of the game I cite, can the cannon pawns on e2 and a2 be seen as spotting the piece on c4?", has not been explicitly answered.
The current position cited is this:
The rule should reflect the real situation of an archer trying to hit the target when the victim is located at longer distances and needs help for focusing the shot, hence the role of the spotter.
The following diagram shows how I understand the matter.
Red circles indicate all the possible short range captures.
White circles indicate the possible positions from which the spotter would fulfill its role.
Green circles indicate positions from which any white piece [archer's friendly] would not fulfill the spotting role.
But this is only a personal interpretation and I'm, of course, willing to abide Michael's statement.
Which option you think would be the best? I am willing to play according to your taste.
Originally envisioned drops after moves and also lean for this option, so let's follow playing that way.
The Colorbound Conversion Rule seems to me nice, so let's apply it immediately at our bold adventure of exploring this utopian (crazy?) variant. Thanks for the idea!
1) Drop Chancellor on e1/e8
2) Drop Chancellor on h1/h8
3) Drop Archbishop on e1/e8
4) Drop Archbishop on h1/h8
5) Drop Chancellor on e1/e8 and Archbishop on h1/h8
6) Drop Archbishop on e1/e8 and Chancellor on h1/h8
7) Not to drop neither
So, Mats, I suggest you to introduce the two extra choices in the preset codification.
Congratulations, Cameron, on having won the tournament. If Jeremy is willing to continue playing, I could edit the special preset. He also could edit it and send to you the respective invite.
In case you and Cameron want to continue the out-timed game, here is the special preset.
I will email you to define details on next tournaments.
Given that we have not heard anything from Joe, I express my deepest desire that he be in good health.
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