Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To Reinhard Scharnagl wrote on Sun, Jul 29, 2007 07:17 PM UTC:Hi Derek, concerning the differences of our piece value models let me repeat to mention, that I later will work out a refined approach, where piece values (more precisely their mobility part) will depend on the percentage of free squares on the board. It could be then, that in practical games that could even more hide those theoretically existing differences. And I repeat to point out, that as pieces were exchanged not only their average piece values will be removed from the board but also their positional influences. My program SMIRF puts that all together when calculating the new evaluation after an exchange. Thus it is not convincing to focus merely on average piece value differences. When I see, that here a discussion is running on evaluating other game pieces, let me add some thoughts. Chess is an inertial game, that means, its evaluation is changing slowly through the game, despite of tactical errors. There are other games like Shogi, where more dynamic elements are changing that kind of lazyness. Watching evaluation trees there leads to instable search results, finally having some kind of a randomly generated value overlay. In other words, the evaluation does not that much depend on average piece values as compared to Chess, but instead much more on surprisingly rising tactical occurrences. Also CRC may be positioned a small step nearer to that behaviour seen from Chess. During the last days I also have thought over the problem on how to create a meaningful evaluation model for the game of Arimaa, which will be extremely different from Chess. I have seen there on its discussion site how people are trying to establish position depending piece values. But I doubt that this would be a promising way to do that job. Actually I believe, that pieces interdepending constellations there are much more important than such an elementary try. Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID Shatranj Values does not match any item.